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R. Kelly Announces "White Panties" Album, Possible Joint Project With Mary J. Blige

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistermaxxx View Post
    i spoke on my R.Kelly Conspiracy theory many a moon ago and here are my 2 cents on the now and then

    Black Panties worked for the modern rachet one trick pony. it was the kind of mix tape album which worked for what it targeted. problem is no money track and nothing sensual and it felt like something that he went to a coemdy club and laughed at with his crew, if Kellz was 20 years younger then the fans of Kevin Hart and Katt Williams would treat this album as we treat 12 play. chew on that for a minute 1)

    it don't matter if he calls the album tropical Panties, he is going about it in a rough and raggedy way to talk to a certain audience, problem is he ain't getting a new audience. he is a Old School act now and the newbies want there own generation of acts to do what he does. they view kells as that dirty Uncle on record or in song. now He is seen as Legendary and a Important artist, though he represents another era and he ain't gonna get that kinda jump. Kellz going GOld or Platinum is because of us who Grew up on him and jammed to his music and been there since back when. Newbies know him from Igniation or trapped in the closet or step in the name of love. or the pr of his life 2)

    i think he seems more hyped now about working with Mary J Bliege and if they pull that off together then its a step in the right direction because they are from the same era and are two of the very few still standing from back then which is a acconplishment in itself if you ask me 3)

    i said it before and i will say it again R.Kelly to me stopped caring after the Happy People/ U saved me Project. once the jive brass put a limit on him dropping his musical virus project then he just went through the motions and alll of his albums aside from love letter and write me back he has just thrown tracks on them and see if something sticks. 4)

    black panties/white panties just like love letter/write me back are meant to be double album projects. he ain't even sweating things no more he just throws it out there. truth is i would want the country album or the duet album with Mary or a jazz album or a blues album from him. i think in all honesty when he puts R&B/pop/Rap to the curb for a while then he will drop something mind blowing.

    he has been putting out strong stuff and yet he is missing that cut.

    Black panties is a cult thing and in time his records will all sell more however folks gotta be removed from him.

    90's Kellz or even early 00's Kellz ain't coming back because he was about his music and outlook differently. right now he is playing the rounds.
    i mean that era is long gone. ain't no Michael Jackson to work with. ain't no space jam film to write a classic song for. ain't a break up with a Aaliyah to create a religous love amongest other deep composed tracks. ain't no "When a Woman's feed up" to inspire the blues

    ain't no Nas,Jay Z, Snoop, Biggie,twista,fat joe, to inspire the R&B/Rap Colab


    i think right now its a wait and see.

    truth is when he had that trial hanging over his head or whenever his back is against the wall the man writes and puts out his best stuff.

    not saying he ain't had nothing good, however Chcolate Factory, Loveland and Happy People were not playing they were bringing the business musically and to me Love Letter brought the business he just needed more love instrumentation.

    however his Personal being has taken a hit because in part if anybody else had have gone from chocolate factory to love letter they would have sold way more and been scary and not mention a strong live performer though he needs a live band on stage.
    after i
    hearing him doing sam Cooke Live like he did, he needs to always bring it live like that.leav

    e the corny future,weekend,trey songz,,chris brown,justin bieber,etc.. leave all them turkeys alone and stop competiting with them because they ain't your peers and they ain't your talent level and why dum your game down to hang with them lames?? they are aight acts and i might like a few songs, but come on man your catelog is legendary those cats combined ain't seeing one of your classic albums put together. why dump down to appeal to this generic audience of fans out here who don't know or respect true talent. brainwashing
    I don't see Kellz as trying to compete with Trey Songz, The Weeknd or any of those artists. BP was R. Kelly paying homage to R. Kelly. He went and got new upcoming songwriters and producers. He didn't go to Mike Will or Drake's producer Noah "40", etc. He wanted to tap into what the other artists are doing and at the same time pay homage to himself. All the producers and songwriters he enlisted were inspired by Kellz sound and you can hear it.

    Honestly, if he wanted to release an album like Chocolate Factory he could. But he wanted something very raunchy and left field so we got BP. He knows shock is what will grab today's audience. Songs like "Imagine That" will not get people talking like the song "Show Ya P***y" does.

    My only grip with Kellz is that there's no longer a medium. It's either too sexed up or we get songs like "Share My Love"... he lacks balance. Whether it's intentional or not. There's no longer a balance. And as he has aged it seems like he wants to either pay homage to himself by doing what the other artists are doing or he wants to do something totally left field. It's like he took the whole "shock value" and cult following he has and ran it into the ground. I noticed this started in 2005 with TP.3 and when you thought he couldn't top himself he releases "Double Up"...

    About his writing, he barely even wrote much on BP. Again, he enlisted a bunch of upcoming songwriters for the album. I believe he's at a point in his career where he's just relaxing. He's not going to go as hard as he did as was in his prime. The trial did light a fire in him but at the same time he was still in prime of his career and there was so much going on in his life and people wanted to hear him express himself! Now, that is not the case. 2007 was like the year everything went downhill because a shift in R&B music occurred. It shifted more to a "turn up" phase and the funny thing is Kellz inspired that aspect of R&B and these R&B artists have ran it into the ground! Back in his prime, in his 30's, there was a lot of inspiration to write and create. Now? not so much. At least, from what I can tell. He's 47 and just cruising. I sense that he just wants to experiment with different sounds and see where it takes him. How far his mind can go. Possibly set music to the side and do writing. I can see him doing that too.

    It's somewhat sad that a legend like Kellz doesn't know what to do since a bunch of his clones are releasing songs that sound like something he'd write and produce! He fails to understand that a song like "Cookie" will just fade into the background and Trey, Chris Brown, etc. will score R&B hits. It's the sad truth. "Cookie" already tumbled off the charts. "My Story" did too. Now RCA is gearing up to release "Leg's Shakin'"... so we'll see.

    Also I don't see the MJB joint album actually happening...

    Btw, you're right about how 90's/00's Kellz isn't coming back. Back then he had so much freedom but now I believe he has more of a hustler mentality. He probably thinks "What will get people talking?" instead of "How do I feel?". The audience today has a very short term memory so a song like "Cookie" will grab and get them talking as a pose to a song like "When a Man Lies"... It's sad but it's true. IMO, When a Man Lies is by far one of his best songs in a very long time. It's a very well written song and of the same caliber as "When a woman's Fed Up" but the song came and went because we live in a different age.

    I'm just waiting for him to release an album with BALENCE. We need songs where he is able to be his usual freaky self but at the same time keep it mature and also the inspirational songs and express himself like he used to.

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    Personally I am all for white panties, people are loving black panties and it is still selling well. I think it was kellz competitive nature that drove him to making a "younger" sounding album to show he the young audience that keep up with young artists, and he absolutely slayed them!!! Now I know these artists are below him, but he genuinely seemed really hyped for black panties. Black panties seemed to bring kellz back into the mainstream. He needs too promote white panties like he did black panties. All the listening parties, appearances, radio interviews, tv appearances really had people talking. He was within 10k of number one until camel and Beyoncé released her album at the last minute. Kellz is to the point where is label only wants to promote to an older audience, that's why as long he his in the mainstream like he is, I say continue to ride that wave. Plus since this is a two part album, white panties can help push black panties. He can even learn from what worked and didn't work on black panties and make an even stronger album. I personally don't need the 90's cuz all of my favorite albums came from 2002 and later, two of them from within the last 4 years. I think white panties can be spectacular, and Fuck Yall has to be on it!!!!! I've never wanted a song so bad, it could be a anthem, and people continue to talk about the song.

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    I do agree. I think BP was excellently pitched and has been a huge success which is what he needed. One thing to just consider, is whether or not it would've been as bigger success without the Do What U Want collabo with Lady Gaga, which actually was a huge slice of fortune because it was never intended as a single, (certainly to coincide with the BP release...)


    If he does White Panties it'll need a heck of a hit to promote it...

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    I personally don't expect to see that album.....How many times has he announced the 'next' album after dropping one and ........it never shows up....If White panties do come out i'll be shocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistermaxxx View Post
    i spoke on my R.Kelly Conspiracy theory many a moon ago and here are my 2 cents on the now and then

    Black Panties worked for the modern rachet one trick pony. it was the kind of mix tape album which worked for what it targeted. problem is no money track and nothing sensual and it felt like something that he went to a coemdy club and laughed at with his crew, if Kellz was 20 years younger then the fans of Kevin Hart and Katt Williams would treat this album as we treat 12 play. chew on that for a minute 1)

    it don't matter if he calls the album tropical Panties, he is going about it in a rough and raggedy way to talk to a certain audience, problem is he ain't getting a new audience. he is a Old School act now and the newbies want there own generation of acts to do what he does. they view kells as that dirty Uncle on record or in song. now He is seen as Legendary and a Important artist, though he represents another era and he ain't gonna get that kinda jump. Kellz going GOld or Platinum is because of us who Grew up on him and jammed to his music and been there since back when. Newbies know him from Igniation or trapped in the closet or step in the name of love. or the pr of his life 2)

    i think he seems more hyped now about working with Mary J Bliege and if they pull that off together then its a step in the right direction because they are from the same era and are two of the very few still standing from back then which is a acconplishment in itself if you ask me 3)

    i said it before and i will say it again R.Kelly to me stopped caring after the Happy People/ U saved me Project. once the jive brass put a limit on him dropping his musical virus project then he just went through the motions and alll of his albums aside from love letter and write me back he has just thrown tracks on them and see if something sticks. 4)

    black panties/white panties just like love letter/write me back are meant to be double album projects. he ain't even sweating things no more he just throws it out there. truth is i would want the country album or the duet album with Mary or a jazz album or a blues album from him. i think in all honesty when he puts R&B/pop/Rap to the curb for a while then he will drop something mind blowing.

    he has been putting out strong stuff and yet he is missing that cut.

    Black panties is a cult thing and in time his records will all sell more however folks gotta be removed from him.

    90's Kellz or even early 00's Kellz ain't coming back because he was about his music and outlook differently. right now he is playing the rounds.
    i mean that era is long gone. ain't no Michael Jackson to work with. ain't no space jam film to write a classic song for. ain't a break up with a Aaliyah to create a religous love amongest other deep composed tracks. ain't no "When a Woman's feed up" to inspire the blues

    ain't no Nas,Jay Z, Snoop, Biggie,twista,fat joe, to inspire the R&B/Rap Colab


    i think right now its a wait and see.

    truth is when he had that trial hanging over his head or whenever his back is against the wall the man writes and puts out his best stuff.

    not saying he ain't had nothing good, however Chcolate Factory, Loveland and Happy People were not playing they were bringing the business musically and to me Love Letter brought the business he just needed more love instrumentation.

    however his Personal being has taken a hit because in part if anybody else had have gone from chocolate factory to love letter they would have sold way more and been scary and not mention a strong live performer though he needs a live band on stage.
    after i
    hearing him doing sam Cooke Live like he did, he needs to always bring it live like that.leav

    e the corny future,weekend,trey songz,,chris brown,justin bieber,etc.. leave all them turkeys alone and stop competiting with them because they ain't your peers and they ain't your talent level and why dum your game down to hang with them lames?? they are aight acts and i might like a few songs, but come on man your catelog is legendary those cats combined ain't seeing one of your classic albums put together. why dump down to appeal to this generic audience of fans out here who don't know or respect true talent. brainwashing

    I wish I could LIKE and THANK on this post like 50 times! I agree with it big time. He has completely dumbed down his 'musicality' to be considered amongst these one-trick pony robotic newbie wannabes when he could have just stayed in his lane and continued being legendary; eventually the world have come back to reality.

    Instead, he's playing out his midlife crisis or whatever it is in front of our eyes and into our ears; you might like some of the new stuff but nothing he has done in post 2004 matches his catalogue. Love Letter was good but it feels like some of the songs were not finished (Maxx and I have mentioned how the instrumentation needed more before) and WMB sounded like it was LL rejects pieced together (I like the album though).

    Hopefully, he snaps out of whatever the hell is up with him, starts behaving and sounding his age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoonBallz View Post
    For me, he needs an 'R' album. An album that is serious, deep, and also has a massive hit/anthem on. He needs to be taken seriously.
    Too true 'He needs to be taken seriously...'

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubhack View Post
    He was within 10k of number one until camel and Beyoncé released her album at the last minute.
    It's about time we stopped blaming camel for anything... No? If BP was going to sell more it would have regardless of who released what when; I am one of numerous Kelly fans who still haven't bought it.. No one can just release an album with 15 videos without some serious planning..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizl View Post
    I wish I could LIKE and THANK on this post like 50 times! I agree with it big time. He has completely dumbed down his 'musicality' to be considered amongst these one-trick pony robotic newbie wannabes when he could have just stayed in his lane and continued being legendary; eventually the world have come back to reality.

    Instead, he's playing out his midlife crisis or whatever it is in front of our eyes and into our ears; you might like some of the new stuff but nothing he has done in post 2004 matches his catalogue. Love Letter was good but it feels like some of the songs were not finished (Maxx and I have mentioned how the instrumentation needed more before) and WMB sounded like it was LL rejects pieced together (I like the album though).

    Hopefully, he snaps out of whatever the hell is up with him, starts behaving and sounding his age.

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    Too true 'He needs to be taken seriously...'

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    It's about time we stopped blaming camel for anything... No? If BP was going to sell more it would have regardless of who released what when; I am one of numerous Kelly fans who still haven't bought it.. No one can just release an album with 15 videos without some serious planning..
    Totally agree with this post and the response. But I will say that Kells is so mercurial that only a couple of years ago he was taken as serious as a heart attack. Only a year ago he was taken seriously for WMB and previously with LL. i think those two albums wiped out any idea of people considering him a joke. LL made almost every critic's top 10 list at the end of the year and WMB made it on to some as well in 2012. I agree with therealrkelly, White Panties will never see the light of day. Some tracks may get added to some bonus BP album this year, but that'll be it. i think there's more of a chance the Country album comes out than WP. With the recent convergence of R&B and Hip Hop collaborations with Country with Lionel Richie's success and Nelly's, the timing is right for it. For awhile R&B and Country had drifted from each other, but it seems that's changing.

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    I have a feeling that we'll get White Panties. Kellz has already enlisted other producers for the album... He's working on several projects.

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    Could this be the first single off the White Panties album!?

    R. Kelly And Shawna Want The Haters To 'Back-Up' | Vibe

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    Quote Originally Posted by smile4me View Post
    Could this be the first single off the White Panties album!?

    R. Kelly And Shawna Want The Haters To 'Back-Up' | Vibe
    This is from 2009... I don't know why blogs are even posting this. I didn't bother to listen based on the feature artist, lol.

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    Shawnna is cool. She's just as good as this other mess out here and at least she can rhyme, lol. Now, of course she is not who's poppin right now......

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