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OFFICIAL Billboard Article on Double Up DEBUT!!

This is a discussion on OFFICIAL Billboard Article on Double Up DEBUT!! within the R. Kelly News & Announcements forums, part of the R. Kelly Discussion category; He should have like a third week of #1, 2...

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    He should have like a third week of #1, 2
    R.Kelly is the Undisputed king of R&B so lets Double up he's comin through ur speakers non stop

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    I honestly think we're putting too much pressure on the brother. I mean face the facts, we can speculate all day to whether or not he would have sold more with a more traditional R&B album but we don't know. So you mean to tell me that TP-3 was a better album than Double Up, heck no but it open up with over 490,000 copies but that was in 2005. But if you noticed after the second week at #1 the album went down hill because of the overload of Trapped In the Closet and no other strong singles besides "Slow Wind" which couldn't even save the album.

    However, even though Double Up has alot of perfanity with more of a club vibe to it the album still has more radio friendly songs to it. This album is going is going to be pretty consistant as far as sales per week because he has enough songs that he can push to gain more sales than his last. AS LONG AS IT GOES PLATINIUM THAT'S ALL THAT'S MATTERS IN THIS DAY AND AGE! Congrats to Kells!

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    I see the album selling 1.5 million when it is all said and done..
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    I Thought R.Kelly would sell more then that.It's great that he Number 1

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    I'm not too impressed with his opening figures for this album. Tyrese, Brian, and all those other twats shouldn't even be compared, whether it be talent or numbers. It actually made me chuckle cause it didn't put anything in perspective for me. Lol...LOYD.
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    ^Wow... Twats? That's a li'l unnecessary don'tcha think? It's one thing to share your opinion, but don't "hate" like that. Give some back-up to why you feel the way you feel...

    Keep it real, don't just be a d*ckrider...and bash everybody besides Kelly.

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    Wasn't bashing Brian just the other's on the list cause they are garbage, especially lloyd. The point of my post is that none of those people have ever sold what R has so how could showing me the numbers of those other artists put anything into perspective for me. There are plenty of good artists (Brian one of them), the other's on that short list are pretty bad. But it's a short list, so when you say I'm bashing everybody but kelz, it doesn't make much sense. But the point of my post, which you must not have gathered, which I could tell since you called me a Dickrider, had nothing to do with the fact that most people on that short list suck. It had to do with their puny numbers, which shouldn't even be compared to R's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chitownlov3r View Post
    Wasn't bashing Brian just the other's on the list cause they are garbage, especially lloyd. The point of my post is that none of those people have ever sold what R has so how could showing me the numbers of those other artists put anything into perspective for me. There are plenty of good artists (Brian one of them), the other's on that short list are pretty bad. But it's a short list, so when you say I'm bashing everybody but kelz, it doesn't make much sense. But the point of my post, which you must not have gathered, which I could tell since you called me a Dickrider, had nothing to do with the fact that most people on that short list suck. It had to do with their puny numbers, which shouldn't even be compared to R's.
    the normal every day joe doesnt care about record companies, record execs, sales, platinum, gold, reaching sales goals, proft off CD sales, who writes/produces....THEY CARE ABOUT WHATS ON THE RADIO.

    which is why i put those numbers of r.kelly's peers that are ON THE RADIO with him. thats important because most people dont see r.kelly like we do......as a great writer/producer and innovator of our time. they see him as a song on the radio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G.J. View Post
    Co-sign on that. I have no doubt that Kells still has a 500k opening week left in him but as Altheia mentioned in another thread, Double Up with its content has possibly alienated a lot of his core listeners who don't necessarily want to listen to him singing/rapping about the whole club thing.

    If Kells goes back to his old formula of a predominantly soulful R&B album with a measured dose of hip hop and a lead single that can really either touch people on a personal level (ie. I Wish) or is just too hot to be denied (ie. Ignition Remix) then I have no doubt we will see another 500k opening week from the R.

    The other advantage that Kells still has on his side is that despite being 40 he still packs a helluva lot of commercial clout as this opening week suggests. Every other R&B singer at 40 would have been considered 'too old' to play on mainstream urban radio by the age of 35. Keith Sweat is a perfect example of that
    good points. Age don't matter if your stuff is still tight though. I mean Tina Turner had a Helluva comeback at age 45 back in 1984. if Michael Jackson comes with a soulful Album he can still go Double Platinum. Hell MJ went DOuble Platinum back in 01 past 40. People Buy the Isley Brothers still. now mind you there is a game you gotta play but if the record is tight then people will buy. Folks always kept Luther Vandross Platinum and he hardly ever ventured out of the Slow Jam tip. Whitney Houston can still go Gold or Platinum. but the key is Quality and that is what is gonna define the whole thing. folks want that Soul from Kellz that is the bottom line period.a few colabs here and there are cool,but Keep a Snoop and a twista,but no Chamillionaiare,Nelly or Luda or TI. Keep it Soulful and he will do big numbers and get the Love. i mean he can go Gold easily,but the bigger picture is just have that Soulful Album.a Cat like R.Kelly earned his Greatness for being SOulful and not just putting out cute stuff and working with a Usher is on the cute tip which wouldn't have flown back in the day. but having said all of that Kellz is in rare company because the Brother still debuts and does extremely well in a era and time period where buying Music just ain't that important. speaks volumes about his Genius.

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    I'm strictly talking about numbers not about how we see him in regards to talent. His numbers in the past have been far superior to those people you mentioned. It's one thing to be on the radio, it's totally another thing to have your album sell. You showed that with the numbers you posted for those wannabees. R has a fanbase unlike those other's posted. If you were to put up people like Usher then maybe we can start putting things into a lil more perpective because Usher has sold albums in the past. Again these other artists have not. With that said, I think the very best way we can go about putting his first week album sales into perpective is by comparing this album to previous R albums. Now, there are an aray of variable surrounding R that could be brought into the argument, which I would be more than delighted to discuss with anyone, but showing me the numbers of people like lloyd and tyrese doesn't really put anything into perpective. I know quite a few people on this board from the old board, and I'd be willing to bet that they feel very similar to the way that I do about using these other people's number to put things into perpective. In fact, I know a few for sure who do.

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