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"Double Up" Tour Discussion

This is a discussion on "Double Up" Tour Discussion within the R. Kelly News & Announcements forums, part of the R. Kelly Discussion category; ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Leonard Rowe, president of Rowe Entertainment announces that the tour line up has changed for the nine-week long DOUBLE ...

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    ATLANTA--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Leonard Rowe, president of Rowe Entertainment announces that the tour line up has changed for the nine-week long DOUBLE UP TOUR which currently features R. Kelly, Keyshia Cole, and J. Holiday.
    Def Jam Recordings’ R&B vocalist, Ne-Yo, was a part of the line-up through Thursday, November 15th. It was Rowe Entertainment’s decision to revamp the line-up, minus the Def Jam Recordings’ artist, because Rowe Entertainment could not obtain the final, fully-executed contract from Ne-Yo’s agent. The decision to release Ne-Yo was made solely by Leonard Rowe the national tour promoter. Contrary to previously published reports, R. Kelly exerted no influence upon Leonard Rowe’s decision.
    “From a business perspective, it would have been extremely difficult for me to continue under this cloud of uncertainty. Unfortunately it was decided that in the best interest of all involved, since I was unable to receive the fully-executed contract, I had no other alternative but to release Ne-Yo from the tour,” said Leonard Rowe. “We are currently surveying the availability of other artists in order to fill this void.”
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    I wonder if Neyo is going to have a statement regarding this recent statement from the promoter

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    Everything I read is talking about Kells being a diva, but who isn't he ain't the first and won't be the last demanding entertainer especially at his level. NeYo actually got folk thinking Kells is jealous. That's why Kells is not responding because the shit is crazy and unnecessary to give a statement. Unlike with the BOBW he felt the need to give his side of the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by latinfever View Post
    Do you all really beleive a person of R Kelly's status does not have any influence over who is on tour with him? Afterall, this tour is called the Double Up tour? Who do you think profits the most from this tour? The main evernt artist and the Record label do. Sure the promoter gets a nice cut. But at the end of the day the main artist, in this case, Kellz, is getting the biggest cut. To actually bash Ne-yo for stating what he has experienced and calling it BS is fascinating. If R wanted Ne-yo onboard beleive me, he would be onboard. This whole contract shit is just a smoke screen.

    Look what happend after the BOBW tour. Jay Z called on his friends to join the tour with him.. Do you honestly think that this was all dependent on a contract, in getting all these artists onboard in such a short notice? Of course contracts are important in any business negotiation..this determines how much $$ an artist is garanteed to make.

    At the end of the day, the main eventer determines who is on tour with him or her.

    I thought Ne-yo, was a great choice to have onboard. He's postitive and is starting to be considered a good up and coming songwriter. To say he's jealous of R Kelly is ridiculous. You cannot be a male R&B artist and not have love for Kellz' music. Which Ne-yo is on the record for stating.

    Think for a moment everything that has happend with R Kelly since 2002 and compare it with everything prior to that year. There's a big trend here..and unfortunately I don't see it changing.

    You see his long time publicist dissassociating herself from him after being there for 15 yrs and you ask yourself what the fuck happened here? People then start bashing Ms. Daniels calling her a gold digger...she's too old...she's no good. I mean really.
    ^ ^ i dont agree w/ that at all.

    1. R.Kelly does have influence. BUT HE IS NOT a company. He is not a label, a promoter, a tour organizer or a publicist and 20 other hats that you think he wears. He is an artist. He is a musician. And he is trying to perform night in and night out for thousands of people. Do you think R.Kelly is aware of some contract that Neyo's label was supped to sign....? No.

    2. JayZ called his friends to join him. Pro-Bono. None of those artists got any $$$ for being there. They just wanted to be there for Jay and get some exposure. So therefore, a contract was not needed. In Neyo's case you forgot one very important detail: HE WAS CO-HEADLINING AND PERFORMING AT EVERY VENUE. Unlike, your example. Neyo's case is completely different that your JayZ and Friends situation.

    3. At the end of the day the "Main Eventer" is concerned with being the main event. To think that R.Kelly has the burden of performing in 30+ cities in 2 months and still run parts of this tour is ludicrous. That is why we have people like Ms. Daniels', DJ Wayne, Rowe Entertainment, Jive and DefJam etc etc etc etc.

    4. I wish that all Ms. Daniels' would have done is "disassociate" herself. But she did more than just that. And to ignore that is fascinating to me. I mean, really...




    Quote Originally Posted by ALTHEIA View Post
    Everything I read is talking about Kells being a diva, but who isn't he ain't the first and won't be the last demanding entertainer especially at his level. NeYo actually got folk thinking Kells is jealous. That's why Kells is not responding because the shit is crazy and unnecessary to give a statement. Unlike with the BOBW he felt the need to give his side of the story.
    its funny how neyo is calling kellz a diva but neyo is the one causing all the drama???

    reality check neyo!
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    Why would Ne-yo and his agent not provide "a fully executed contract" to the promoter? Anyone have any ideas/guesses?

    Aside from that, as others have said, Ne-yo is the one acting like a diva. Good Lord, with an ego like this at just the beginning of his career, can you imagine what he'd be like if he ever were to reach R. Kelly's status?

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    Do u think any other people on the tour had trouble with kellz, like j-holiday and keyshia....just a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    Why would Ne-yo and his agent not provide "a fully executed contract" to the promoter? Anyone have any ideas/guesses?
    my guess is they were testing the waters.

    since neyo didnt get 14 dressing rooms, get to perform last and his ass kissed by keyshia, j. and R.kelly then they just dropped it and then tarnished r.kelly's name by causing all kinds of drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmorsel View Post
    The common denominator in these drama-filled tours (BOBW and DU) is Kells so even I am starting to think there may be an ego thing going on, and if true then Kells should go solo on tour like the Light It Up tour. In Neyo's interview with Tigger he was restrained and believable. Even though the promoter came out with a statement, I think Kells should say something too, and not through a spokesman.
    Yeah, let people hear from the horse's mouth. I don't think Ne-Yo is making all that story up and if it's all true, then Kellz should act right as well. He's way bigger than Ne-Yo of course, but once it was decided for them to do the shows together, he should set an example for juniors in the game like Ne-Yo, keyshia, and J.Holiday by acting decent. It ain't a hard thing to do only if he thinks back when he was releatively newer than other older veteran acts. Throwing his weight around to this level ain't a good look.

    It comes to mind that Ne-Yo has association with Jay-Z but that factor ain't seem to matter much here.

    Thanx a lot for the interview link Roeleboel!
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    I'll be the first to admit that I think Kellz has some personal demons that he struggles with constantly. Listening to his music, especially the "real music," and just watching how the man lives makes it pretty clear to me that my man Kellz has some real problems. Personally, I think he needs to take a break from music and just figure out who he is personally, because I'd much rather take a Kellz music break for a few years than have him run himself into the ground mentally and physically. Because constantly fighting yourself eventually takes its toll.

    Having said that, I don't think Kellz had much to do with this. First off, Ne-Yo has bashed Kellz way before this tour in regards to the sex scandal. He always throws in the fact that he loves Kellz's music to gain credibility, but it's easy to see right through that. While Kellz has an ego all his own, it's Ne-Yo's that is causing all this drama.

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