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    Although some have issues with R. Kelly's show, others separate entertainer from his alleged crimes

    BY SONYA SORICH - ssorich@ledger-enquirer.com

    Tonight's Double Up Tour performance at the Columbus Civic Center has sparked local debate about what division, if any, should exist between an artist's private life and public persona.

    The tour's headliner, R. Kelly, faces multiple child pornography charges for allegedly videotaping himself having sex with an underage girl. The charges were filed in 2002.
    R. Kelly, whose real name is Robert Kelly, has denied the allegations, and the girl prosecutors identified as being in the tape has testified to a grand jury that she was not the person in the tape.

    That controversy, paired with the lyrics in many of the artist's songs, makes some oppose the entertainer's appearance.

    "I can't separate the two. Rarely can I enjoy someone's music if I know their lifestyle is not positive," said Jay Lesley, director of worship and students at Christ Community Church in Columbus.

    Meanwhile, others said R. Kelly's legal struggles have no bearing on his value as an entertainer.

    "A performer and a person -- those are two different things," said Patrice Ryan, 21, of Columbus.

    It's a discussion that becomes especially relevant given the current climate of public redemption for celebrities -- from Michael Jackson to Britney Spears.

    "We do live in a society today where the lines have been very, very blurred," said Dr. J. Aleem Hud, a social/behavioral scientist who recently organized a Hip-Hop Summit to discuss the state of the genre.

    "People make a connection with their (entertainers') artistry," he said. "We've always done that."

    Columbus is the first venue in the nine-week national Double Up Tour, which also features R&B stars Ne-Yo, Keyshia Cole and J. Holiday.

    But naturally, it is the magnitude of R. Kelly that has received significant attention.
    "That was a legendary move, bringing in a big act like that," said Herman Glaze Jr., CEO, producer and artist for Columbus-based E.B.E. Entertainment, a group that works with local hip-hop acts.

    To many hip-hop fans, announcement of the tour marked the re-emergence of an entertainer referred to as the "Pied Piper of R&B" -- not an individual who in the early 2000s stood at the forefront of a child pornography scandal.

    "I thought it was all over with. I hadn't heard any of the press about it," Jazmine Garard, 20, of Columbus said Tuesday when asked about R. Kelly's legal struggles.
    Ignorance? Maybe not. Public opinion goes through a variety of stages, from formulation to fallout, said Dr. Richard Baxter, chair Columbus State University's communication department.

    "Unless something re-ignites the debate, it just kind of simmers there below the surface," he said. "He (R. Kelly) has not done anything to sustain our memory about it."

    In the years since the R. Kelly scandal broke, other celebrities have ignited controversy that some say rivals, if not exceeds, the severity of the artist's legal issues.

    "There's other entertainers that are continuing to be the fodder of the entertainment media," Baxter said.

    Not to mention the rise of more substantive issues, he said.
    "People right now are thinking about their mortgages and who's going to be the next president and whether the kid from down the block comes back from Iraq," Baxter said.

    That's not to say that R. Kelly doesn't still have his critics.

    "I don't care for him," said Kamari Rainge, 18, of Columbus. Even though the entertainer has yet to be convicted of any of the child pornography charges he faces, she said she suspects he's guilty.

    Glaze counters, "We are all innocent until proven guilty."
    While Hud said songs like "I Believe I Can Fly" and "I'm Your Angel" somewhat separate R. Kelly from hardcore rap, the Double Up Tour's music still attracts opposition.

    "To me, the music is vulgar," Lesley said. "It's vulgar even beyond where our standards are now. I don't think it lends to leading a life of character and integrity."
    Likewise, the Rev. Johnny Flakes III, assistant pastor at Fourth Street Baptist Church in Columbus, said he's not opposed to one artist in particular.
    Rather, he opposes the overall derogatory message that will be inherent in many songs performed at tonight's concert.

    Flakes runs "The Truth Behind the Hip-Hop," a class at his church that aims to show that hip-hop isn't just music, but a culture that degrades people, particularly women.
    If, as some promoters believe, the Double Up Tour gives hip-hop an even bigger role locally, Columbus as a whole will ultimately have to step back and look at its values, Flakes said.

    "I think all of us have a responsibility," he said. "It's a systemic issue."
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    people are entitled to their opinion....but to me, this man's personal business IS NONE OF ANYBODY ELSE'S DAMN BUSINESS. he has the right to perform and continue his routine of making music, doing tours and any other LEGAL thing to pay his bills and feed his family. ministers should be the one to point out, "HE ONLY HAVE TO GIVE ACCOUNT TO GOD, not man. he who is without sin, CAST THE FIRST STONE." that person does not EXIST.

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    Did anybody go to the concert last night? Is it true that Keisha wouldn't perform?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuvinKellsintheD View Post
    Did anybody go to the concert last night? Is it true that Keisha wouldn't perform?
    I'm trying to find out too. Hopefully, pics will pop up. I've been looking at all the major photography companies and nothing yet. I know for fact I'll definitely see pics for Atlanta show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bettyen View Post
    people are entitled to their opinion....but to me, this man's personal business IS NONE OF ANYBODY ELSE'S DAMN BUSINESS. he has the right to perform and continue his routine of making music, doing tours and any other LEGAL thing to pay his bills and feed his family. ministers should be the one to point out, "HE ONLY HAVE TO GIVE ACCOUNT TO GOD, not man. he who is without sin, CAST THE FIRST STONE." that person does not EXIST.
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    When will people learn to stay out of that man's personal business? Concentrate only on his music and talent. What's so hard about that? No offense to Columbus, Georgia, but the city had controversial problems with different R&B and rap artists who comes to their town in the past. Bobby Brown & Ice-T were both arrest for doing vulgar things on stage during the late 1980's. What gives them the right to judge people? Only God does the judging! Some ministers do NOT practice what they preach, so why you won't to criticize the secular arists? To all the haters out there talkin' shit, if you don't like our boy, R. Kelly, KEEP YOUR NASTY COMMENTS TO YOURSELF AND LEAVE HIM ALONE, DAMMIT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarter74 View Post
    I'm trying to find out too. Hopefully, pics will pop up. I've been looking at all the major photography companies and nothing yet. I know for fact I'll definitely see pics for Atlanta show.
    keep us posted. thanks.
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    folks are gonna say and thank what they want,but there is no denying the Man's talent, depth and importance. folks should leave people's business alone,but they can't and won't. gonna have haters and that comes with the territory but they still keeping a eye on him and they need to hate.

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