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While Kells Was Making Birthday Anthems this Happened....

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    fire While Kells Was Making Birthday Anthems this Happened....

    at this point it seems like Kells doesnt care about making quality music anymore...not saying that Ushers song "i don't mind" is quality considering its about a female stripping...but at least hes still topping the charts....i see why people are starting to call him the R&B King....



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    Kells knows his number 1 single days is over i mean When Love Letter single didn't top the charts or Feeling Single u know radio doesn't care anymore
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    ^They made dents and we all accepted at the time that they were good but weren't money tracks. I agree with the sentiment that consistent chart topping days are gone but the days of quality music should not be.

    Ditch the immature nonsense and work with some good writers and producers to create some good R&B and see where it goes I think.
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    I said it once i'll say it again. some if not most ppl nowadays are checkin for singles which does artist a disservice. Whomeva has been choosin his singles since the Untitled album have failed miserably. Its no way Lve Ltter album shouldn't have gone platinum. Taxi Cab would've skyrocketed that album had it been a single/video. when I hear Bruno Mars new track, I think of All Rounds On Me which again, probably would've catapulted LL2!

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    "I Don't Mind" isn't any different from "Happy Birthday"
    Both songs are about strippers...

    It's kinda sad to see his fans lose hope tho. Hidden Content I still think Kellz has a chance. Just look at Lionel Richie or Tina Turner, both made comebacks in their later years. Personally, I think the House album will do well for him depending on the lyrical content. He should focus on his international audience instead of the U.S. this time around and infuse R&B with other genres. I'm over the same formula of R&B, tbh.

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by smile4me Hidden Content
    I said it once i'll say it again. some if not most ppl nowadays are checkin for singles which does artist a disservice. Whomeva has been choosin his singles since the Untitled album have failed miserably. Its no way Lve Ltter album shouldn't have gone platinum. Taxi Cab would've skyrocketed that album had it been a single/video. when I hear Bruno Mars new track, I think of All Rounds On Me which again, probably would've catapulted LL2!
    Yea, his albums have been mishandled. For whatever reason his label and team just settle for Urban AC airplay which is sad. "Taxi Cab" should've been a single along with a music video. People love to attack Kellz for his music but Justin Timberlake tried his hardest to emulate the Love Letter era for his last album.

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by Citizen K Hidden Content

    It's kinda sad to see his fans lose hope tho. Hidden Content

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    the thing is he needs to quit putting out any ole thing...and fans need to quit settling for the shit and acting like hes putting out good music when he isnt...if more fans were vocal on twitter and instagram about the trash music hes releasing then maybe he would make a change....and yes Kells has lost many fans behind the garbage hes been putting out....even though many will deny that...but i'm talking about fans who actually care about the music...not the groupies who have dreams of licking his nuts and ass....


    and i still havent watched the birthday song video...i refuse to after reading many of the comments about it all over the net....hell i got second hand embarrassment just from reading about the shit..and yeah i know its only a birthday song...but its still garbage...he could of did better....i doubt any of his fans wanna see him become a has been like (joe,ginuwine, etc)....but he needs to step his game up....

    Psychopaths have a Hidden Content and grossly inflated view of their own Hidden Content and importance, a truly astounding egocentricity and sense of entitlement, and see themselves as the center of the universe, justified in living according to their own rules.

    Psychopaths show a stunning lack of concern for the effects their actions have on others, no matter how devastating these might be. They may appear completely forthright about the matter, calmly stating that they have no sense of guilt, are not sorry for the ensuing pain, and that there is no reason now to be concerned.

    Many of the characteristics displayed by psychopaths are closely associated with a profound lack of empathy and inability to construct a mental and emotional "facsimile" of another person.

    Psychopaths seem to suffer a kind of emotional poverty that limits the range and depth of their feelings. At times they appear to be cold and unemotional while nevertheless being prone to dramatic, shallow, and short-lived displays of feeling.
    Obligations and commitments mean nothing to psychopaths.

    But here is the crux: Psychopaths don't feel they have psychological or emotional problems, and they see no reason to change their behavior to conform with societal standards they do not agree with.







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    my dime on this

    he is considered an older act and the biz ain't putting that kind of paper on him,plus black panties went gold and yet his fan base cared.didn't catch any extra flavor for being on the best man holiday project or working gaga.

    chris brown had a chance and he is blowing it and he is sinking while having a hit however unless he gets a money hit than he has already peaked

    Trey Songz was a never was, very much a unsung act in the mix

    Usher had this last project scrapped and he was forced to work with Juicy J because thee first two singles off his projectdidn't really catchy on. i mean he had a coomericial with honey nut cherrios however Usher is far removed from that dude from the confessions days

    i mean he could go all the way R&B,mix up with Hip Hop or gospel or a Jazz project or Blues. Problem he faces is that the audience today wantsa fast hit and then moves on.

    problem for him is that he always reflected what was happening and that shows you how weak it is now.

    now if he did a project called black lives matter and sung of that kid from the ghetto and didn't hold back,then he woul make a statement period

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    and i like joe's last album and it fit him and Joe ain't pimping himself,he just putting his music out. Kellz gotta stop being a musical politician and just do what he does best.

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by KARMA Hidden Content
    the thing is he needs to quit putting out any ole thing...and fans need to quit settling for the shit and acting like hes putting out good music when he isnt...if more fans were vocal on twitter and instagram about the trash music hes releasing then maybe he would make a change....and yes Kells has lost many fans behind the garbage hes been putting out....even though many will deny that...but i'm talking about fans who actually care about the music...not the groupies who have dreams of licking his nuts and ass....


    and i still havent watched the birthday song video...i refuse to after reading many of the comments about it all over the net....hell i got second hand embarrassment just from reading about the shit..and yeah i know its only a birthday song...but its still garbage...he could of did better....i doubt any of his fans wanna see him become a has been like (joe,ginuwine, etc)....but he needs to step his game up....

    I believe backlash from fans are almost the only motivation for him to change his ways.
    Maybe some older musicians like Charlie Wilson or Ron Isley could sit him down and give him advice, like, "Hey, man. Listen, it's time to let go of whatever desire left to climb up the charts. Make sure you keep your dignity intact while climbing back down the ladder." Still, I doubt that'll do the job as much as negative responses from fans. Plus, he needs someone hip and honest enough to expose him to negative reviews on a regular basis. Raw and uncut. If the person does a little screening or editing for time efficiency, s/he should choose constructive and possibly beneficial ones. Kellz don't need no yes-men or cheerleaders, esp. those who encourage him to stay "current" or "relevant."

    Looking to younger fellow musicians, unfortunately, I don't think there are plenty of 'em to make Kellz feel jealous and work harder, as far as mainstream is concerned (Can we even think of recent mainstream R&B/Soul artists who can take on the job??) The ones who are obviously less talented, they can't really get through to him, no matter how much they want quality music from him and publicly expressed the craving. It's only laughable to him and to us.

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    He needs another project album to bring out the best in him, and I'm not talking about a house or christmas album.

    But I don't think the situation is as bad as its being made out to be. Happy Birthday will probably just go the same way as It's On a couple of years back. Neither of them were uploaded to his main youtube account, and neither of them have been/will be remembered outside of his main fanbase. I doubt it will be on an album when that album finally arrives.
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    I agree with this thread. I am pretty concerned - not with his current situation - but what he could potentially do to his career. If he went down the 'Birthday Song' route then he could write his way out of any Hall of Fame. He needs to regain his prowess with a sensible, hard-hitting R&B album. He could lose his R&B title if he keeps doing all these side-projects which don't get any recognition.

    He wrote TP-2.com when he was depressed, I think he can pull something out of the bag.

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