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This is a discussion on Musical Virus Discussion within the R. Kelly Music Chat forums, part of the R. Kelly Discussion category; As some of you MAY or MAY NOT know: R.Kelly for the past five years or so has discussed a ...

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    As some of you MAY or MAY NOT know: R.Kelly for the past five years or so has discussed a project in where he would release albums/songs that pertain to each continent/culture in a project "code-named" MUSICAL VIRUS.

    ...pretty cool, huh? Well.......we have yet to see it. In fact, we have seen bits and peices of Musical Virus released on recent solo albums and collabs.


    What are your thoughts?
    Do you think it will ever be released?
    How big do you think this could be? ...Or would anyone care?
    What songs do you think were on MV and then got put on an album?



    REGGAE/CARRIBEAN
    Slow Wind
    I Like Love
    Reggae Bump, Bump
    Freaky in the Club

    AFRICA
    The Zoo

    ASIA
    Thoia Thoing

    EUROPE
    ...yet to see anything from the "old country" and surrounding areas.

    USA
    He has dipped into R-and-B, Southern Music and West Coast feels.
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    dude is basically Screwed because the cats that run these Busines's today ain't about you trying too many things out of the formula. Ya'll can hate me if you want and give me a Bad rap,but DOuble Up on a whole ain't shit. that is so beneath his talent and depth it ain't even funny. most of that Shit is better served elsewhere. just like Tp3 and Unfinished Business Kellz just been going through the Motions. His heart and soul is into MV. dude sounds better vocally and the music has meat on the stick to it. Slow Wind eats all the slow cuts on this album for breakfast. when I heard I like love i got a warm feeling that sorry alot of Double Up just didn't give me.

    Jive wants the hits. yes once he gets a few more albums out they might release this,but you know how the industry operates? more like when Kellz is pushing 60 then they will say we have the never before released Musical virus Projects. these Record Companys think the buying public is dumb and can't appreciate something out of the box. most of Double up sounds like 2nd and 3rd rate shit that he could do in his sleep.

    but Slow Wind, I like love, Peace,my africa,if i could make the world dance, those are the african vibe right there,and all of those songs sound Good IMO and blow away this mess he is putting out.

    naw it probably wouldn't sell as much as Double Up and TP3,but I think it would Sell even more and showcase His Genius even more so.Bro Man got things in the vault that make this slick and predictable shit he is putting out sound tired. all the Musical Virus stuff that he slowly hints with a few things here and there along with Loveland stuff and you know he would be on some scary vibe.

    I understand Kellz can't do much because of his situation,Record companys say you need us and also we got you under contract,etc... and we ain't putting out no expereimental Shit in it's un-cut form. but if he were clear and could do whatever he wants then MV would be out un-cut. He is tired of doing the Bullshit he has to put out on alot of levels. don't get me wrong He keeps up with what is happening and wants a hit in a modern day kind of since,but at the same time, He finds no challenge or adventure in basically going through the same tired motions. He has to dump down his His talents in order to stay happening basically. I welcome the changes. I know the man has a Jazz,Classical,Blues and other Wordly styles of music in him,but between the record companys and Politics they don't want that to come out.so add me to the I hate Jive Records Fan club. they would rather promote and push a Bullshit album as to allowing him full creative control on a Project that truly takes his artistic vision into a area that so few before have ever gotten to. yeah there are a few decent tracks here and there,but He is just putting whatever out and going through the motions. he wants the MV and we deserve that un-cut and no bullshit.

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    ^^ I agree with you on a level but I don't agree with you on another level because I like Double Up and I think its good music. I agree with you on Jive not lettin Kells show his true talent on the mic. Shit if you heard him perform live you know what I'm talkin bout. Chocolate Factory and Loveland classic shit. And thats what his true fans want from him. We don't want to be in the club all night. We know Kells is a musical genious and he wouldn't work with some of the people he has been working with on Double Up for example. Do you really think Kells would want to do a song with Huey, Nelly, and Chamillionaire?
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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by phantom of tp3 Hidden Content
    ^^ I agree with you on a level but I don't agree with you on another level because I like Double Up and I think its good music. I agree with you on Jive not lettin Kells show his true talent on the mic. Shit if you heard him perform live you know what I'm talkin bout. Chocolate Factory and Loveland classic shit. And thats what his true fans want from him. We don't want to be in the club all night. We know Kells is a musical genious and he wouldn't work with some of the people he has been working with on Double Up for example. Do you really think Kells would want to do a song with Huey, Nelly, and Chamillionaire?
    sad to say i do think he wanted to work with them.i mean he did work with Jay Z and made two albums with him because Name and Numbers go hand in hand and that is why he didn't put out that album with baby Williams. I understand the business side of the tracks and Kellz does like what sells and he does care about popularity and awards,etc.... no matter what anybody says he does care. i mean he worked with Ciara, Marquez Houston, Nick Cannon,Jennifer lopez,B2k,ATL,. i dug the songs to a extent because R was involved,but lets be real some of the folks he has worked with, should be lucky to hand him a a Big gulp at a nearby 7/11 let alone get a chance to work with him.

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    ^ ^ i agree. kellz does care about awards, sales and how his music does. its all he has left. music, his fans, his family and one or two close people to him.

    you should never trust a man that does not care about his work or has nothing to lose.

    i think he wanted to work with them as well. and why not?!

    kellz isnt hear to be the anti-POP?! he is hear to make great, fun, enjoyable, crazy, deep and HIT MUSIC! thats what he has ALWAYS been about.

    some of us have forgotten that on 12-play there was a song called 'i like the crotch on you'.....lol

    kellz is doing what he has always done. MAKE HITS. POP HITS. turn on the radio and say NOT AGAIN type hits. its what he does and what he will continue to do.

    thats what double up is all about.
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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by phantom of tp3 Hidden Content
    ^^ I agree with you on a level but I don't agree with you on another level because I like Double Up and I think its good music. I agree with you on Jive not lettin Kells show his true talent on the mic. Shit if you heard him perform live you know what I'm talkin bout. Chocolate Factory and Loveland classic shit. And thats what his true fans want from him.
    I agree with your post, but how much of this is really Kellz and not Jive. I mean Joe, Brian McNight, Avant, NeYo these are R & B cats and are not forced to mix hip hop with there cd's....you get purely R & B on these cd's......I think Kellz has a lot of control on what goes on his cd's...I think he is the one that wants to try so many different avenues and wanted to work with those rap artist....he likes to constantly push his musical creativity....but the fans just want good old R & B without being in the club all night trying to get some ass.
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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by ALTHEIA Hidden Content
    I agree with your post, but how much of this is really Kellz and not Jive. I mean Joe, Brian McNight, Avant, NeYo these are R & B cats and are not forced to mix hip hop with there cd's....you get purely R & B on these cd's......I think Kellz has a lot of control on what goes on his cd's...I think he is the one that wants to try so many different avenues and wanted to work with those rap artist....he likes to constantly push his musical creativity....but the fans just want good old R & B without being in the club all night trying to get some ass.
    well......here we go. Hidden Content

    Joe: Went Gold with his 2004 "and then" and looks like this last album is going to have a hard time even getting gold. and on "and then" he had G-Unit all over it and on "aint nothing like me" he has G-Unit as well along with papoose and fabaolous and dre and the r-and-b might be r-and-b but it doesnt mean its any good.

    Avant: No Hip-Hop on his albums?? lil wayne, pussy cat dolls, lloyd banks, jermaine dupri on "Director".......thats looks like hip hop to me. Hidden Content also, it went gold, JUUUUSt barely 550K (approx) TOTAL.

    Neyo: jayZ is on his album....and im sorry, but this album IS HORRIBLE. i LOOOVE r-and-b, but this album is just NOT good. Hidden Content

    brian mcknight: his latest "ten" sold 53,000 in its 1st week.............................................. ....and as far as hip hop tim and bob produced a bunch of tracks and they are hiphop producers.
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    I agree with all of y'all on this. In the eyes of the record companies, hip hop is necessary to sell R&B today to the mainstream... Personally I don't believe that. If the music is good enough and talks about things that connect with the audience on personal levels then it will sell, although promotion is important... Take Usher with Confessions, sure he had great promotion, tabloid publicity, the biggest crunk hit ever at the height of crunk's popularity and what not, but the fact is he put out 3 straight R&B singles with massive success because he connected with his audience - teeny boppers or not he struck a chord.

    Like maxxx and AZ said I believe that Kells probably does want to work with all the people he worked with on Double Up because he does care about his popularity and you can't fault him for that. I just think he needs to realise that he doesn't need rappers to keep his relevance amongst the present generation. Rappers are a dime a dozen... true artists with R. Kelly's ability and commercial appeal are once in a blue moon - even less often today.

    As for MV... we can only hope. Like maxxx said, songs like 'I Like Love' are heart warming, 'Ooh Baby' is really nice, while 'Slow Wind' was unreal, murderous. 'My Africa' and 'Peace' were fantastic too. In fact every Kells song where he seems to have worldly ambitions has been awesome - maxxx mentioned 'If I Could Make The World Dance', which is my favourite song off HP/USM and what I wouldn't give to hear the full version of 'Read All About It'.... Those two songs in particular you feel the Marvin Gaye What's Going On vibe - straight up classics

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by mistermaxxx Hidden Content
    dude is basically Screwed because the cats that run these Busines's today ain't about you trying too many things out of the formula. . that is so beneath his talent and depth it ain't even funny. just like Tp3 and Unfinished Business Kellz just been going through the Motions. His heart and soul is into MV.
    This one's hard to tackle.
    Yes, record labels like the tried and true shit, BUT i feel R kelly has the power to release what he wants, and to pick his own singles.
    Like someone else mentioned, Kells LIKES when his shit sells, he loves appealing to the masses, sometimes as a musician you want evryone to enjoy ur music and get a good feeling.
    I'm sure he put a lotta work into the MV concept, but it's not easy to actually release somethin like that. You're asking a label to distribute and market, what? like 5 cds both domestically and overseas. It's hard enough marketing 2, as with Nelly's SWEAT and SUIT.
    TP3, and UB to a lesser extent, i'm sure Kells felt he put out some hot shit w/ those albums. I think it's unfair to say he's "goin thru the motions". Kells is not like some cats that get writer's block and dont know what the fuck to do.
    By his own admission he lives and breathes music ALL the time...dude be shittin out tracks!! And then he tries to put on what he thinks is the best stuff out on his cds. And you can tell he enjoys the hiphop shit. BORN INTO THE 90's prolly has the same r&b to hiphop ratio if u compare. He aint changed that much. He's just updated the sound to stay current. He's not tourin the chitlin circuit doin gospel plays like most of his peers from back in the day.

    And songs like I BELIEVE I CAN FLY only come around once in a blue moon, shit is unpredictable....

    finally, if you aint feelin the hiphop shit on the last 2 cds...I made this cd-r for the car yesterday...do the same...

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    01 In The Kitchen
    02 Leave Your Name
    03 Slow Wind
    04 Freaky In The Club
    05 Put My T-Shirt On
    06 The Zoo
    07 Remote Control
    08 Same Girl
    09 Kickin It With Your Grilfriend
    10 Real Talk
    11 Touchin
    12 Best Friend
    13 Sex Weed
    14 Sweet Tooth
    15 Love Is What We Makin
    16 Havin A Baby
    17 Sex Planet
    18 I Like Love
    19 Don't Let Go (from the Tyler Perry soundtrack last Jan)

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    Good Thread AZ. I give credit on this one.

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