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Loveland versus 12 Play 4th quarter

This is a discussion on Loveland versus 12 Play 4th quarter within the R. Kelly Music Chat forums, part of the R. Kelly Discussion category; better songs? Better arrangements? Loveland sounds very 60's and 70's inspired. 12 play 4th Quarter has a 90's till now ...

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    Default Loveland versus 12 Play 4th quarter

    better songs?

    Better arrangements?

    Loveland sounds very 60's and 70's inspired.

    12 play 4th Quarter has a 90's till now feel which do you prefer?

    better overall music and Production?

    better vocals?

    which has more interesting range in depth,etc...???

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    Loveland was not really finished mastered yet. But it's still an Unreleased Classic imo. But TP4 is a great body of music just ain't up there with Loveland
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    While I really liked some of the 90s inspired cuts on TP4Q, the album albeit unfinished wasn't up to par with a 90s Kelly album or Loveland for that matter. Loveland was an inspired album and IMO is arguably Kelly's finest work to date

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    i love tp4 better than loveland!
    but thats not to say that loveland is an above average album.
    tp4 to me is kells going right back to the original 12play, songs like whole lotta kisses and freaky sensation are just classics that could have been released with the og 12play!

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    both album`s are good. don`think that u can say this is better or that. it`s more 12play and for me is more important thta kellz is going back to the classics not only that what he leaked now.

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    thumbsup Great Thread Maxxx

    Call me biast but Loveland & 12P4Q are the best two leaked R&B/Soul albums of the digital era....I think whats so good about them is its Kells just being Kells...no gimmicks, no vocoders, no nothing just Kells doing what he does best...if I had to choose I'd have to go for 12P4Q but they are both 5***** in my opinion....

    There are some absolute masterful tracks on each but I love 12P4Q because in a way it was a statement when people (including myself at times) questioned if Kells had the ability to write, produce & arrange another quality record he hit us with it! Bamm!!!!!!!!....more of the same please Kells!
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    gotta go with Loveland, he can still take tracks off loveland and put them on new albums if he want too

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    I think they are so different that it's too hard to say which is better because they are so different. I really enjoy both of them for what they are. Loveland is so incredibly smooth that it captivates me and takes me into a chilled out place. 12-Play 4Q is tight because it has that gritty 90's sound and it takes me back to when I first discoverd Rob and groups like Jodeci so it's special to me in that way.

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    I favor TP4Q just because it came at a time when I was craving some soulful R&B from him. He proved that he can still make the bedroom joints and that he still has that amazing vocal ability that we know and love him for. It just came at the right time. That's how I want his new project to be too.
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    I think loveland is good but TP4 is just awesome.

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