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Let's go to the extreme (post-acquittal mode)

This is a discussion on Let's go to the extreme (post-acquittal mode) within the R. Kelly Music Chat forums, part of the R. Kelly Discussion category; Hidden Content Originally Posted by The R. Hidden Content I would love to hear something like that too. Either a ...

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    thumbsup Let's get more greedy and spoiled!

    Hidden Content Originally Posted by The R. Hidden Content
    I would love to hear something like that too. Either a tribute album to one particular old-school artist or an album full of cover songs by all kinds of different artists. He would kill it, plus it would raise a little more awareness to his fans. Also, if he did a cover version as a tribute, there'd be no way he could mess it up by guest production, cheap beats, stupid metaphors. It would be a safe bet, actually.

    But apart from that, I'll stick to what I've always said. I am ready for him to do anything. Blues, Jazz, Funk (please!), Twist, Swing (although that would be nothing new with all the swing-performing artists over the past years), house, dance music, rock, classical music ... I would love it all, and I am sure all of those projects would rank among my favorite R. Kelly albums. But for me that is easy to say since I love all types of music, which is a love that most of his fans don't share.

    But no matter what, I would love him to start collaborating like a madman. I want collabos. (... pause for the boo's ...) Of course I'm not talking about the usual unpassionate and musically flat "you send me a beat, I send you a rap" collaboration. I want him to collaborate with real, I mean, real musicians. Artists that are great in their own respective fields, no matter if the public doesn't know them or if they have a commercial appeal. I want him to work with guitarists, trombonists, sax players, organists, true bassists who are great names in their musical direction and on their instruments, but who might not be known to others.
    I'd like to hear collaborations such as Santana's and John Lee Hooker's "Chill Out" (is Hooker still alive, by the way?), or something with Buddy Guy, Wayne Shorter, some African singers/percussionists/instrumentalists ... I want it all.

    It would just require R. Kelly to allow others to shine, and to actually actively collaborate in one studio with those guys. The band that recorded his albums so far is cool, but a studio band can only take you so far, especially since R. Kelly never really let them shine. So I want real instrumental geniuses who are independant from R. Kelly to add magical moments to his songs. It would also gain the highest respect and acknowledgment from the critics and reviewers.
    You pointed out so many great pointsHidden Content I esp. like the collaboration part. That's what I've always had on my mind. Collaborations on such level takes a lot of time devoted to get to know each other and build personal relationship as well as work relationship. I believe Kellz is willing to do that not just for his own album to shine but also to have fun jamming together with them.
    Hidden Content Originally Posted by mistermaxxx
    drop a Sam Cooke/Bobby Womack type of tribute album and R can pull it off IMO.
    You didn't elaborate on the type of tribute album, but I'd love it to be something that he can show off mainly his rearrangment skills and vocals. Like The R. said, the album will lead many of his fans who didn't really know and listen to Same Cooke and Bobby Womack to start getting to know their music. Oh, how much does he love Bobby Womack's music? I'm wondering...cuz I don't remember he mentioned his name in interviews. We've all seen The Isley Brothers, Sam Cooke, Donny Hathaway, Stevie Wonder coming out of his mouth so often. Maybe I'm missing on something here?
    Hidden Content Originally Posted by Ms.Applebottom
    Yes AZ I agree I think he needs to go back to his roots too because thats what made us fall in love with him. These R&B artist now are trying to crossover with these whack pop hits or hip hop. I am getting so tired of the way that R&B is going right now its just whack! Its time to put the soul, sweat, and tears back into and I think he is the answer......If he gives classic R.Kelly!
    Hmm, I think....in this situation where many R&B aritsts in the core mainstream look to Pop/Euro and Hiphop, if he puts out a pure R&B/Soul album, it can be fresh and new, if not experimental. Sometimes, going back to the roots and showing how the basic's done right alone can be original when almost everybody else is trying to do something "different" with limited skills and talents.


    I hope he can put out at least one instrumental album before his career ends. The album can be a soundtrack or just his own project. Again, he needs to collaboarte the way The R. pointed out to make it happen.
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    Womack's direct frankness and soulful rap is something that Kellz could easily pull off. Sam Cooke of course.

    but I do feel he is bored. shit Jive shited on him releasing the whole musical virus Project and he dropped it over in the past few albums and that to me says that the powers that be want what sells as to him having full artistic vision.

    him working with the Game, T.I. T-Pain,etc... seems more corperate pushed that his complete all doing IMO.

    the outside producers raises flags as well IMO. I believe he is bored with the Industry Politics but at the same time he is a Hit-Maker and he is torn with how to balance the two but this industry is hit and miss when you are a Prolific act.

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by mistermaxxx Hidden Content
    Womack's direct frankness and soulful rap is something that Kellz could easily pull off. Sam Cooke of course.

    but I do feel he is bored. shit Jive shited on him releasing the whole musical virus Project and he dropped it over in the past few albums and that to me says that the powers that be want what sells as to him having full artistic vision.

    him working with the Game, T.I. T-Pain,etc... seems more corperate pushed that his complete all doing IMO.

    the outside producers raises flags as well IMO. I believe he is bored with the Industry Politics but at the same time he is a Hit-Maker and he is torn with how to balance the two but this industry is hit and miss when you are a Prolific act.
    I cringed when I saw Mariah Carey's "Lovin' You Long Time" got single-cutted with T.I. on it. And it has a "remix" tag now. He wasn't on the album version. Remix? The only thing that changed is T.I.'s rap part added. Now that's just the latest example of "Let's put a hot rapper on it and see if it works" approach. I fear Kellz have to follow the same formula when his songs are great as they are and really don't need any rappers.

    Do you think Jive will at least give him a greenlight to do a standard, conventional, pure R&B/Soul album? This type of album is what majority of us here seem to want for now.

    Yeah, looking on the bright side, he's too prolific to be limited. I believe he will again win the right to abandon calculated and planned hits and make adventure. Of course, the sooner, the better cuz now's the right time.

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    Now this is just my opinion. I think that he is trying to appeal to all ages. Most of us have been with him through the 90's and that music was great for us, but as we get older we want to keep him there. I feel that some of his music is geared to the younger generation (remember I am older than most of yall lol) so sometimes when I hear some of his music I am like 'oh ok". But I like that about him he can appeal to all ages. some of his music is not going to be for me, but thats ok I will still listen to it. But I love when I go to the concerts and he sings the old stuff. I am sure he will make a mixture of music so that everyone can enjoy it.
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    I'd like to see another tp2.com type of album....an album that flows together and is fire from begining to end.....

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    I would like him to go unplugged with a Sam Cooke tribute album. That would be pure Soul but it would come across as a experimental kind of project too, since he would be going back to his roots without any 'extra' help. No catchy commercial beat or trendy lyrics about superstardom, chicks or sex.

    And I also miss those true collaborations where the artists get to know each other and their work face to face. That situation of two musicians working together in the same studio with a common goal is what brings out the memorable music.

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    I like the idea of an unplugged album but I think I would prefer for him to do original music unplugged.

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    I think he should atleast try to do the clean songs from now on. I know it may be hard, but it would be a good step in the right direction.

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    I would like him to make adult music. I mean love making, I love you, I'm so in love, lets go out dancing, spiritual... all that type of stuff. Sure the songs about sex and fucking are technically adult content, but kids love that kinda shit. I would like him to make something in the vein of the Loveland, Chocolate Factory, Happy People era, but different.

    The difference would be the production. I'd like him to use live musicians. Not keyboard horns, but a horn section. Not keyboard strings, but a full orchestra. not a drum machine.... you get the picture. Mix it like music is supposed to be mixed, minus the excessive compression (To the extreme right?) Let the the musicians get some playing time like Marvin used to. He doesn't have to sing through the whole song.

    Another difference is cut down the tracklist to between 10-14 tracks and let the songs breathe. I say that in regards to the 3:30 second standard. I can't help but think if he let the songs develop for 5-7 minutes as opposed to 3-4 minutes, we could really get some gems.

    He can really make classic music if he uses musicians as opposed to beatmakers. He's got it in him, and hopefully whatever label he'll be on at the time will let him to what he wants.

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    ^^I didn't know he used keyboard instruments. Well, I guess it could be even better, then!

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