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Joe Says R. Kelly Tried To Sabotage His Career

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    *He couldn't quite put his finger on it, but R&B artist Joe felt something wasn't quite right with his situation at Jive Records. So after 11 years on the label and six albums, the singer decided earlier this year to bounce and give the independent route a try. It wasn't until after he left the label that Joe says he found out what was behind his perceived stalled progress. He says his own label mate, R. Kelly, put pressure on Jive execs and radio stations to fall back on promoting his records when the singles appeared to be getting too much attention.
    "R. Kelly was very instrumental in making a lot of decisions when it came to my records being played on the radio," Joe told EUR's Lee Bailey Tuesday. "He would make a call to the radio station or to the label and say, 'Hey, this Joe record is too hot right now. Yall need to pull that back.' And they would oblige."
    Joe says there were a lot of shady things that went down at Jive and he's happy to finally be able to vent his frustrations freely, now that he's off the label. "It's incredible that now I get the opportunity to, I don't know, maybe pay [R. Kelly] back in some sort of side bar kind of thing."


    The 35-year-old Columbus, GA native said R-ruh did not succeed in sabotaging his career, which includes seven Grammy Award nominations, three gold albums and two platinum discs.
    "I'm still very relevant in the game. But yeah, he did try to make some decisions when it came down to my records being on fire, and climbing up the charts and on the radio stations," Joe said of Kelly. "He felt like they should pull back because he felt he was more important. And with their loyalty to him, they obliged."
    Joe says he didn’t find out about all of this until after he left Jive six months ago. His exit, instead, had to do with his belief that it was "just time to do my own thing."
    The artist is releasing his upcoming album, "New Man," on Sept 22 - via Kedar Entertainment Group - headed by his manager and former Motown president Kedar Massenburg, with Joe and Chico Debarge as full partners. Distribution will be handled by Universal Music Group's Fontana Distribution.






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    I'm a pretty big Joe fan - All The Things (Your Man Won't Do) is probably one of my top 10 songs ever - but I haven't really been into much of what he's doing lately... I would say subpar material would have a lot to do with whether he's played or not. Hey, I'll still buy his stuff... but I'm not surprised at all that he's not getting much airplay.

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    Loser! Of all the allegations I've heard against R. Kelly, this ranks up there among the most ridiculous... And to think I had huge respect for the man. Not his fault I guess, it's the people who've gotten in his head with these ludricrous stories that are the real losers... If his songs were that hot no one would be able to take them off the radio.
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    Joe is just hating

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    I dont think R. Kelly would just call stations n Jive and ask them to shelve his record or not play them. This is business and R. Kelly is the King of R&B and his Empire but I dont think he has a say when records are aired on radio or jive when it come to other artists. It a hoax, lie.
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    i do like joe, but if he is trying to start a war with kells he dont stand a chance,

    i rememeber reading in vibe years ago before kells was arrested, and keels was salgging joe and sisqo and a couple of other dudes off, and when joe released the tracks that had been leaked of loveland, i knew there was trouble between them, because kells is so creative he normally makes new (unleaked) material for everyone else!

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    joe knows that right now placing the blame on Kellz is the in thing to do...

    joe is bitter at his failure of a career...so he wanna place blame on Kellz instead of himself...so he ran to eurweb to get them to throw him a pity party...

    if Kellz was sabotaging his career, then where is his proof? audio, video, etc...

    who is he gonna blame if his new album flops?
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    Maybe it's true we don't know..

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by wb kellz Hidden Content
    Maybe it's true we don't know..
    R Kelly does not run Jive or the radio stations because if he had that much power or influence of either, I'm sure he would use that POWER to work for his advantage, which it hasn't in the past. Jive doesn't even promote or push Kells material so why would anyone in their right mind believe that Kells has that much influence. If I remember Joe, it was Kells who gave you that major hit two cd's ago if he was hating he wouldn't have given you a song that he himself could have used.

    Radio station influence, I aint buying it cause again, I would be hearing mad Kells all over the stations and I don't. If Kells had any influence anywhere TRUST he would be using it to towards his career no ruining a nobody in the industry....Joe has never ever been any threat to Kells.

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    He's smoking something...........

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