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Does it bother you when people speak of kellz in past tense?

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    We've probably all heard ppl talk like this but anyway, I was recently in the beauty shop and the radio was on. The radio station did a kellz music mix (from 12 play-LL). People were singing along to the songs that were on the mix but I noticed it got quieter as the DJ was playing songs from LL. This one lady said, man I remember when kellz was making good music. So I said he still makes great music and she said girl it's not the same as back in the day.

    I know its several threads on the whole "Old school kellz" but how do u feel when ppl refer to him being a good/great artist some 5-10 yrs ago but he's not so much now. Every artist has a peak and a prime but it seems ppl almost dismiss his work now for his past work.

    what do u guys think?

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    It's kinda annoying how he is still having hit albums but still going unrecognized to the larger public because the singles aren't being hits on the Hot 100/main charts in other countries.

    There was a trend on twitter just yesterday '#forgottenartists' and a lot of people were saying R. Kelly, was tempted to tweet them all a link to Love Letter but just let it pass, would probably only critisize it anyway because it doesn't have another Ignition or World's Greatest on it.
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    agreed. I feel the same as you Exit. those ppl are just stupid lol. just read today that another misinformed listener says Trey Songz is becoming R. Kelly. I told him that was the funniest tweet ever tweeted. but hey, if they think he's a forgotten artist, they'll learn again this year.

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    I also agree with what's been said. It bothers me to read/hear people say they miss/like when he "was making good music". I'm like, excuse me, was!!!? He still is! It's so frustrating to see people sleep on him and the funny part is, they yearn and beg for "real R&B" (some of this from other R&B artists), and when he delivers, it's overlooked. People are lazy. Rarely do they look/listen beyond what's on the radio. There are still people just discovering & loving Love Letter. I think people need to understand artists evolve, & musical directions change. Everything has a time/era. They (artists) can't stay stuck in the past & boxed in. If people can't get on-board with the new & give it a chance, or it's just not for them, then go listen to the past albums. Fact is, he's never going to satisfy everybody, all of the time.

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    It upsets me when people talk about Kellz in past tense I always try to promote him when I have the chance and alot of times I get laughed at and people be saying Kellz stinks, hes old, but they don't understand his brilliance. There loss not mine.

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    my dime on this topic and a Great thread by the way

    to folks who grew up on him be it as pre teens, teens or early 20's, his best to alot will always be the 90's.

    and you got others who will say 92-04.

    personally the Man has been strong for two decades however a few knocks

    post happyy people/u saved me. 04-09 unfinished business, TP3,Double Up and Untitled

    were hit and Miss albums at best. 1)

    bad tour with Jay Z and that whole fiasco 2)

    trapped in the closet 1-101 went on and on and on and some folks were into it for the first one and maybe through 5 but after a while either enjoyed the humor of it or just thought it was taking over from his other music 3)

    he made alot of club tracks and colabs with mixed results 4)

    his songwriting took a hit for a minute between late 04-09 IMO 5)

    of course when he was everywhere and dominating the charts yes he is going to be seen in a certain way by alot of folks. 6)

    Love Letter was a warm welcome return and it was needed. however if he ever makes an album where he goes all the way live or has those Money tracks well his critics or folks who have written him off as yesterdays news will be walking with Humble pie.

    and he worked with alot of what was happening acts and it seemed he was just going along and cool with what was happening.


    when he did a record like Happy People and the whole 70's DJ booth set up that was him saying if radio wants it cool, but this is me. same with U saved me. same with chocolate factory and loveland and now love letter.

    he gets held to a standard where folks want the church side of him and want him to be freaky and sometimes he is guilty of trying to play dual roles for the past and yet I know he wants to move into other avenues as a Artist.

    i think on the real his subject matters as a Artist and the court of Public opinion about his Personal life has blurred the line, but IMO when I see Kellz and the things he does musically it reminds me of Ray Charles.

    i always say this folks ain't going to respect and understand his depth until he is either Old or has passed. because with Kellz you can never count him out and he is one of the few Music vets who can keep a hit in the modern climate and still do his thing.

    but he is considered Old School now and I'm cool with that and it doesn't bother me, as long as he is matching his talents as a singer, songwriter, producer, arranger and visionualist then i will clown the haters.

    he doesn't need to trip on what try songz, chris brown,usher, etc.. are doing because all them turkeys combined can't carry his Piper mask and yet I understand the competition and him wanting to be the Man and in the modern sense,however he is at his best when he does his thing.

    but I tell some folks Kellz can't go back to 93,94,95,96,97,98,99 that was then and this is now and he ain't lost a thing because the musicality on his albums is stronger and his live game is even better.

    but some folks want to romaticize where and when they were doing during said time and R.kelly has been guilty of feeding that system when he talks about 12 play himself even though he has since made equal to Better albums IMO, its just that he was so much more dominant on the charts,etc.. different time,but the Man ain't lost a thing musically, he is just looking for respect for his contributions and that is always a needed.

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    Nah, not really.
    AT LEAST, they had a good time listening to him back in the day.
    That means they are a group of potential concert-goers or purchasers of any of his releases.
    Right now, they're sleeping on him, but you never know when they'll be hit by that nostalgia and 'wake up'.
    And I'm not saying they will eventually change their minds, if and only if he gives them some replicas of his 90's albums and vibes.

    It would be nice if more and more of them stay up-to-date on Kellz' musical journey, but if not, then cool.
    As long as he got enough fans to feel appreciated and supported to keep on making music for a living, it's all good.

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