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which 00's albums has the best overall Production

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    not talking songs or anything else but just on Production where the sounds and music just hit you from the first moment you listen to it. now I'm talking about tp2.com through the unreleased tracks from late last year. just from Production alone.

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    TP-2.Com followed by Happy People/U Saved Me followed by Chocolate Factory followed by Double Up & TP.3 Reloaded

    Happy People/U Saved Me & Chocolate Factory is kinda tied imo but I'll give the edge to Happy People because it flowed out very well. You Knock Me Out, Snake, and Who's That takes CF down a lil bit even though I still like those songs
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    Ima go TP2.Com --> Chocolate Factory --> Happy People/U Saved. All 3 albums are top grade with regards to production. When it comes to albums I want all tracks to be produced by Rob, cuz that's when he creates his best work.

    I'll be back with specific songs to illustrate this.

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by V.I.P Hidden Content
    Ima go TP2.Com --> Chocolate Factory --> Happy People/U Saved. All 3 albums are top grade with regards to production. When it comes to albums I want all tracks to be produced by Rob, cuz that's when he creates his best work.

    I'll be back with specific songs to illustrate this.
    that bold part is so true!!!

    I also say that tp2 definitely had the best production all over.
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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by Big Dan Hidden Content
    that bold part is so true!!!

    I also say that tp2 definitely had the best production all over.
    Yes indeedy!

    Now the thing with TP2, is that every song was a complete composition...For example if the song is 4-5 mins long, there will be at least 4-5 subtle changes in the song in terms of drum patterns, breakdowns etc When Rob produces for others the song is often pretty much the same all the way through, with only a change for the bridge...that's when he's in generic mode...but when he is fully composing a song, that's when he brings the house down...Adding different strings, and instruments, or even total breaks in the song along with really varied background vocals.

    A good example would be on (Chocolate Factory's) 'Step In The Name Of Love' (Original):

    - He starts with a really nice intro, with flutes (Part 1).
    - This continues for a little while then he brings in the guitar, and vocals (Part 2).
    - Verse 1 has some really nice background vocals, verse 2 is in the same vain (Part 3).
    - Then he breaks it all the way down, and takes it to the bridge (Part 4).
    - Then he finishes it off with more flutes, and trumpets along with some crazy background vocals (Part 5).

    and Voila, there you have it - An incredible song, with that trademark R. Kelly production! Hidden Content

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    Hidden Content Originally Posted by V.I.P Hidden Content
    Yes indeedy!

    Now the thing with TP2, is that every song was a complete composition...For example if the song is 4-5 mins long, there will be at least 4-5 subtle changes in the song in terms of drum patterns, breakdowns etc When Rob produces for others the song is often pretty much the same all the way through, with only a change for the bridge...that's when he's in generic mode...but when he is fully composing a song, that's when he brings the house down...Adding different strings, and instruments, or even total breaks in the song along with really varied background vocals.

    A good example would be on (Chocolate Factory's) 'Step In The Name Of Love' (Original):

    - He starts with a really nice intro, with flutes (Part 1).
    - This continues for a little while then he brings in the guitar, and vocals (Part 2).
    - Verse 1 has some really nice background vocals, verse 2 is in the same vain (Part 3).
    - Then he breaks it all the way down, and takes it to the bridge (Part 4).
    - Then he finishes it off with more flutes, and trumpets along with some crazy background vocals (Part 5).

    and Voila, there you have it - An incredible song, with that trademark R. Kelly production! Hidden Content

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    Another good example is "The Greatest Sex"; the song is so good it almost doesn't sound like he's singing about adultery Hidden Content

    Intro - Keyboard riff that makes you visualize a room in a beach villa with the bahamas where everything is white; bedsheets, drapes, pyjamas, ceiling fans etc all white

    Verse 1 - Starts off real quiet like he's just waking up from the sleep induced by last night's great sexHidden Content

    Hook - Almost too beautiful for the song man, the keyboard riff, the strings, the bass, the solid but still somewhat soft vocals and the way they go up and down almost at the same instant when he's like "baby your love stays constantly on my mind..."

    Verse 2 - The way the bass guitar and panic drums flow with the beginning of the verse and the rest of it is just hypnotic manHidden Content

    The Rest of the song - No unnecessary bridge, he just keeps singing the chorus and vibing like they (the vibes) were written as well...

    A perfectly composed yet seemingly simple song; classic R. Kelly!!!Hidden Content

    That said; my favourite albums of the 00s are definitely; Chocolate Factory, Body Kiss, TP2 and Happy People (I wasn't sure if we were talking about only Rob's albums)

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    Love Land

    That album to me is his best work far as albums go. The title was a great choice. It felt great! The album was a dedication for everyone on 9-11! The album felt and sounded great. It made that small point in time fell so great. It brought the past of Stevie Wonder and Marvin Gaye, the prototype of R.Kelly and future of what we can expect from music genius's to come. I wish the deaf could hear something so wonderful.

    One beautiful album! Love Land!

    I wished it still got released even though the bootleggers got to it.

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    ^Co-sign if we are counting unreleased albums.

    If we are not counting unreleased albums I would go TP-2 followed by Chocolate Factory, Double Up, HP/USM, TP3 and Unfinished Business.

    Loveland was just brilliance. Each song taken as a composition was excellent. It was the album you could listen to and feel that you were virually listening to pure and actual music, rather than listening to Kells singing over beats made with a drum machine and a PC. The vocal arrangements were spot on too and this is bearing in mind a lot of what we heard were demos or unfinished products.

    TP-2 was R. Kelly making contemporary R&B music at its best. All productions attributes were superb from vocal arrangements, to horns, strings, chimes etc.

    Chocolate Factory aspired to be at the level of Loveland but contained a few tracks which let down the overall flow of the album. It also introduced a few of the more overused and eventually tired sounding production elements that Kells would utilize in the following years.

    Double Up while not a memorable album IMO, but I give Kelly credit as he took some chances on production and created a sound which was very current and also broke the tired production mould he had been in for a few years.

    HP/USM was an album that was well intended and contained some great songs lyrically but the production was almost lazy. The use of piano was great but the water drop effect was well and truly overused

    TP3 was a lazy effort production wise IMO. Scott Storch anyone??? The ballads once again overused the water drop effect and the music did not sound like REAL music. It sounded very beat machine manufactured to me. Happy Summertime was a real exception an is one of the true highlights that Kells has produced musically this decade. That song was a real fresh twist on the Steppers style

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    im gonna have to go with:
    1. chocolate Factory: marvelous production, and instrumentation on so many tracks: Step, Step Remix, Heart of a Woman, You Made Me Lvoe You, Imagine That. the vocal arrangements meshed perfectly with the music. IMO this was the album where he perfected his background vocals, if that makes sense. This album is 5 Star and IMHO still the standard for any album by any artist that is released to this day!
    2. Loveland: I could only dream what it would have been like had this album actually dropped. Perfect production, arrangement, the composition of so many songs are perfect. Loveland, Some Things Never Change, Make You My Baby are brilliant. Make you My baby is very simple, but everything is perfect, with little changes that build through out the whole song.(like how in the third donnie plays on the guitar as if he were playing the blues, then as the final chorus comes in, the guitar gets heavy similar to Imagine That.
    FLy is on a whole another level, and i could write for hours on this song alone!
    3. Happy People/ U Saved Me: Excellent Writing and production again, while alot of the songs are similar, certain instrument changes throughout certain songs, grab you and make sit back and say damn, and loose the idea that it is a theme bases album.

    4. Double Up while not a classic, i beleive that this was important for kellz to make, to almost redifine is sound, and take his writing and production skillz and "modernize" them. To come up with a sound that is very different from his past, and to make Hip Hop beats mixed with modern contemporary RnB. He did different things with this album, and i respect that.

    5 would be TP3
    i didnt comment on 12 Play Fouth Quarter, not sure if we got a album that will remain a leaked album like loveland, or it will be released, redone and remastered.
    Great Topic!!

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