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rants from the dude who played piano on "elsewhere"

This is a discussion on rants from the dude who played piano on "elsewhere" within the Lyric Discussion forums, part of the R. Kelly Music Chat category; alot of acts get points on tracks and lets be real a name brand always sells a product than joe ...

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    alot of acts get points on tracks and lets be real a name brand always sells a product than joe blow. it takes time to become a brand and when you do then you become a shot caller.

    only problem i got with the track is that it sounds dime a dozen to me.rian mcknight had similar chord progression on "shoulda woulda coulda back in 03.

    also R can write and produce him and Beyonce are two different artists in that regard. because Beyonce's songs could be composed by any 12 year old kid.

    i know about the game of ghosts as GC was pointing out. many acting and lets remember these record companys are based out of hollywood and there are alot of characters and things. you'd be surprised at who has done what and the side door prize that the buying public never knows about.

    all major artists at some time and point done got that publishing side loot with just adding a word to a song. all a hustle and it happens every day.

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    chris henderson just responded to this on youtube




    someone on twitter just put me on to this text battle & I can't believe this.  Look, this is Chris Henderson, R. Kelly is one of the only legendary status writer/producers we have who's still significant to today's urban&pop music. Just b/c I started the song shouldn't take anything away from his legacy. This dude single-handedly saved R&B many times thru many trends &phases! To work w/him was the opportunity of a lifetime. Glad y'all love the song, it means the world to me, thx. Buy Untitled!


    And for the record, it's a true co-write. I think folks are bringing it up b/c some close to me know that I had another version to the song back in '07. However, Kells switched some things in the hook, re-arranged & changed the ending to make it more hopeful & more him. That's what a collaboration is & I'm honored to have someone of his caliber respect, let alone touch something I did. Give Phil a brk too b/c his piano touches helped make the track beautiful. Glad y'all enjoy the record.BlessU
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    Ok nice statement. Setting the record straight hopefully once and for all. He truly did change things up and make it a co-write. But why is he defending the dude that's going around bitching the most?
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    That was nice of Chris...seems like a good dude.
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    I have personal friends who are writers & producers who have gotten JACKED by BIG NAME producers/artists & they DID NOT receive ANY credit what-so-ever! Business is shady ass sh*t if y'all only knew.

    Also keep this in mind... A lot of "up & coming, no-name" writers/producers take MONEY from labels to have NO CREDITS on a song. It's an everyday thang in the industry...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenChild View Post
    Also keep this in mind... A lot of "up & coming, no-name" writers/producers take MONEY from labels to have NO CREDITS on a song. It's an everyday thang in the industry...
    Most of us are aware of this but the point is that these guys have collected their "shut up" money so they should do just that.
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    I hope he just do all of the shit on his own next time. Shit like thishappens all the time when you wrk with other producers and writers. Kells should do everything like he used to do it back in the days. This guy is just mad he didn't get credit. he got money so just needs to shut the fuck up
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    Quote Originally Posted by kellzfan View Post
    Ok nice statement. Setting the record straight hopefully once and for all. He truly did change things up and make it a co-write. But why is he defending the dude that's going around bitching the most?

    probably because he knows thats why dude is bitching..because he wants to be praised for playing the piano...that phillip guy probably thought he would be listed on the credits inside the cd cover.
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    Obligations and commitments mean nothing to psychopaths.

    But here is the crux: Psychopaths don't feel they have psychological or emotional problems, and they see no reason to change their behavior to conform with societal standards they do not agree with.







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    Chelle, did he get any loot for the work?

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    this guy just want some attention.
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